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| Porches on the backside of Building 50. |
BK: Which is where the New Urbanism comes in.
RM: Yeah. And, there's another book that was written by Stewart Brand, who was the founder of the Whole Earth Catalog, and that book is entitled How Buildings Learn. You've got to read that book, if you want to know what we do with old buildings. And it's so intuitive once you read the book.
See it's hard for us to think about them being anything other than what they initially were. It's hard for us to jump out of that box. The challenge is that institutional buildings like these have the most difficult time learning to become something else because of the nature of their construction. You can take a warehouse, which is big open space, and you can reconfigure it into smaller spaces very easily. It's difficult to take space that is all smaller rooms and reconfigure it into a bigger space. The reason why isn't just because of the physical fact of taking down walls; it's from the State Historic Preservation Office and the National Park Service guidelines say you can't destroy the historic fabric of the building - and here, it's the corridors and all the little small rooms are the historic fabric of the building. Accept that as an unbreachable code - you can't change a building. On the one hand. On the other hand, though, it's ok to take what was a warehouse, which was one big room, and make it multiple small rooms. So, they're biased in their position, and that's why all these asylums, all over the country, are being demolished.
BK: And what does Christopher Alexander say about this?
RM: What he's telling us is that the beautiful places of the world weren't built by architects; they were built by people, and they evolved over time in patterns that were always repeated - the ones that kept repeating and stuck around. And if you just look at those patterns, they'll all be different - your patterns are different than my patterns - but when we identify them and focus on what it is that we need to do, like the smaller parking lots, defining the entrances, the transition from the public to the private. The whole series, in my mind, makes logical common sense. When you read it, then "yeah sure, I see that, I know that." But it takes us a while to be consciously aware of it. Sometimes it's more of a subconscious - "why is this place so appealing?" I don't know. Let me think about it for a minute and start looking around. Like when you go to the beautiful places in Europe - the piazzas - the vitality and energy that comes out of that convivium of people.
BK: When you began really looking in detail at the Village, did you feel like it captured that characteristic?
RM: No. Not at all.
BK: So did you feel like it was in opposition to that?
RM: I felt it could [capture the vitality]. First of all, what we had to do is shatter this image of what this building was. When the city and the township first acquired this building, their concept was that they were going to make a continuing care retirement community, in the biggest square foot buildings. Well you know that's not going to work. That's a plan created in a vacuum. Because we don't have that many old people living up here. If it was in the middle of Chicago you couldn't do it. We just don't have the mass to support it. So anybody doing their due diligence to determine what they want to make this building become could easily realize that one single use is not going to work. Also, I don't think that Christopher really talks about this as much as he should - I really think that we shouldn't think of buildings as being for specific uses. I think that we should let the buildings evolve and morph into whatever the market demands dictate.
So, how can you re-create these buildings to become something other than what they were? These were not buildings that invited; they were buildings that confined. That's the first thing to change. Stewart Brand says it takes about 30 years for a building to be vacant before people begin to lose the stigma of what it was. I think that that's true.
So one of the strategies here is, let's let the market demands dictate what the buildings become, rather than saying x amount of square feet of residential, x amount of square feet commercial, lets think about what a village is in Europe, where you have the butcher, the baker the candlestick marker; you have the brick oven which we're building in the middle of what will be the piazza. Traverse city doesn't have any public space, if you think about it. The only public space it has is the open space, just across the road; the only other public space Traverse City has is the road itself - we do use the road itself as that public space - and we do that when we have Friday night live, when we have parades. We're creating a piazza here - we've got a lot of public space, and we didn't put a gate across the road when we started this development. This is open space; this is the commons. This is the Traverse City commons and that's they way we're developing it. A place to celebrate life - that's what its all about.
BK: Is this where that opposition comes in?
RM: If you look at the back of the buildings - we're limited to what we can do to the front of the building, because of the State Historical Preservation Office and the National Park Service standards, we can't touch the front of the buildings. What we can do to the front is miniscule in terms of visual changes. We can do a lot more in the back, so the back is becoming the new front. That's where we're putting the parking, and if you walk around the back of the building now you'll see we've added a tremendous number of porches and new entrances. We're creating, again, a space that's inviting to people. We're inviting people. We put steps up to the porches that didn't have steps going up to them before; we took the cages off the porches.
We've had the opportunity to play social architects, in a way. We have this certain thing in our mind, like I said; we want the butcher, the baker, the candlestick maker, the brewer, the coffee shop, the deli, so on. Some of those elements of community that feed off of each other. The more that they help each other, the more synergy that you create and the more spontaneous order that continues to happen.
There's nobody doing what we're doing; nobody that's going out and getting the baker. I want a wood fired brick oven on that piazza. We're building one right now. I want a winery - an urban winery over in the laundry building. We're building one right now. I want the coffee roastery over there, underground cheesecake factory going in there, a Mercado we're building in all the way through the garden level, so you'll be able to walk from Stella, through the garden level, a gallery of shops, boutiques, stores, specialty food stores, all the way through to Cuppa Joe. Then we'll do another restaurant behind Cuppa Joe, the lower level of the chapel. Another nice restaurant there. The upper level of the chapel, which was the center, geographically the center of the building, but was also the central focal point where people, the patients went, for entertainment, and for church services, was the chapel, which was a really spectacular room, we want to use for a variety of visual and performing arts - art type movies - again, we're creating this entertainment district.
If you went through the list of patterns that CA talks about, you probably would find about 85% of them implemented here (laughs). They're too numerous for me to just spit them out to you.